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PostSubject: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyFri Jul 29, 2011 10:30 pm

Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?

We're "broke" and can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.?

Are you aware of the following?


The British Government provides the following financial assistance: -

* BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
* IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00



* BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
* ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00



* BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00
* ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00

A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing


* BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
* ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900


Please read all and then forward to all your contacts so that we can lobby for a decent state pension.

After all, the average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country for the last 40 to 60 years.

Sad isn't it? Its about time we put our own people first.

Most people won't have the guts to forward this.

I Just did!
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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptySat Jul 30, 2011 11:56 am

* BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
* ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900

You sure that's correct? If it is, that's crazy! Makes you wanna spit!! angry

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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptySat Jul 30, 2011 10:09 pm


mad

6 months ago when I had a interview in local Joke Centre, I overheard a conversation with a Immigrant.

The lady said to him: " Each family member you choose to bring over to the UK from your home country, you will be given an additional £3000 per person with a maximum of £30,000". This was a 1x instalment benifit payment, with them eligible for £200+ per week income per person. With the UK Government & Joke centre setting them up with a bank account and up to 6 months free housing and accommodation.


I can understand that the world is messed up and that you would want to get out with your family.

But I cant understand the Government giving away Millions to other country's and millions to Immigrants along with our UK jobs.

Bring back Guy Fawkes.

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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 12:34 pm

The amount of money aside - which is clearly obscene in these days of spending cuts - the bit that gets me is ...

"you choose to bring over to the UK from your home country" - I thought we had some kind of immigration policy? Obviously not. mad censored

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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 1:41 pm

Where we went wrong, oh where to start.

Labour, the choice of the lazy layabout, illegal immigrant, and the child producing tarts who do it all for money. The choice of only two parties, and Labour giving everything away to anyone but our own, this has a name its called philanthropy and is done by those who can afford it. Socialism is another word for communism, and even that has nearly died a death as people are not equal, and cannot be controlled to such an extent.

The unions who were allowed to become too powerful, they dictated to company directors, if they were so good then why were they not running the companies instead of becoming union leaders. Unions decimated industry with the communist infiltrators, wildcat strikes, and prohibitive demands which made industry uncompetitive. No money for inward investment, no money for development, and no money ultimately to allow the companies survive, ultimately unions killed the country, yet how many of them forfeitted their massive salaries while members on strike were starving.

As an aside, how many union leaders are on over £200,000 P/A????? all of the large unions top leaders.

They do it for themselves and their pockets, not their members.

Europe and the EU, in conjunction with Labour they introduced massive and prohibitvley expensive legislation for industry, industries costs are not what they used to be, once wages and salaries were the largest expense to a company, now, due to Health and Safety its complying with this legislation which is the greatest business expense. Common agricultural policies which led to the wine lakes, butter mountains, and France becoming the largest farming nation, Spain becoming the largest fishing nation, and Germany becoming the biggest industrial nation in Europe. European people paid for all this surplus but who got it??? if you were a UK pensioner you got two packs of this butter for free, it cost you more to go to collect it than the butter cost to buy, but the bulk was given away to Russia for the cost of shipping it there, how much did Russia contribute to the UK? sweet F/A.
Where was my share of the European wine lake? nobody got any of that in the UK, yet we still paid for it.

Human rights legislation introduced by the EU, and once again sanctioned by Labour who were part of the plot to turn Europe into a socialist superstate, a burgler breaks into your home and injures himself, and then makes a legal claim against you, so again you, the honest hard working individual is hit twice. You tackle a burgler you catch and a fight ensues, you injure him and again he makes a compensation claim against you, so again you are a double victim.

As an aside: Cherie Blair earned an average £250,000 P/A before hubby Tony became Prime Minister, within a year her earnings had risen to £6M P/A. What was her speciality??? Human Rights legislation.

Everyone has equal rights according to the legislation, so why do a percentage of black people claim racial descrimination when caught committing illegal acts, why do many foreigners claim religious descrimination when they are here to commit terrorist attacks, and Pikies suddenly become a minority group, and all with more rights than the average individual. Then suddenly all the decent law abiding citizens of these, and many other groups, become tarred with the same brush.

Bureaucracy: if a jobcentre pays you a benefit why does it cost £1.50 in bureaucracy for each £1 in benefit paid out. Why do councils all make cuts, raise the various taxes they impose, then claim the leader has takes a pay freeze when they earn £225,000 P/A; most working people earning this money would not care of they had a pay freeze.

Why are we paying alcoholics an additional £14 per day, or £98 per week in additional benefits over and above their ordinary benefits so they can buy booze, everyone else has to pay for their own, so why is the taxpayer funding alcoholics booze.
Imagine the scene, you are in a pub and you order a round of drinks and tell the landlord the taxpayer will pay, you would be thrown out if you could not pay yourself.

Or how about drug addicts getting free needles, if you work, or are on benefits and have a medical condition requiring regular injections, diabetes for example, you have to buy your own needles. If you save all the receipts you can actually reclaim back the VAT, WOWEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Why are we paying Polish peoples child benefit, even though they have never set foot in this country, and all while we have starving children here.

Just a few thoughts.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 7:02 pm

It's not just Britain. I don't think it's much different over here either Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 9:35 pm

I'm moree than aware of the pension I get. Also I pay 20% of that back in a direct tax called comunnity charge.

If I fill my Defender up with diesel that's another £100 tax. I haven't actually worked out how much I generally pay each mont in VAT.

Last month, July. I paid for my VED. So that meant over 50% of my income laast month went in direct taxation.

Why is that country bankrupt. Because the unions and the labour party want to keep people paying for people to have jobs that the people can't afford.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 11:19 pm

Gemini:

From the other perspective, i am an employer with several companies, all successful, and all built from scratch.

My largest expenditure is as follows:
1/ Costs of compliance with mostly unnecessary and prohibitive legislation which duplicates itself many times.

2/ Wages and salaries of employees.

3/ Materials bills.

Based on this, if we reduce the legislation to a reasonable level, clarify all the grey areas, and get it back to a more common sense (which most things are) i would be able to increase my workforce by around 30% and still improve profitibility, and have a much larger inward investment budget.

What would benefit would this serve? i could take more youngsters and train them, i could take more experienced workers, and i could have a larger inward investment programme. This means more people off benefits, one saving to the nation, and these people would pay tax and N.I. contributions, so a win win.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 12:58 am

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Too many petty rules and regulations.
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PostSubject: Re: Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong?   Oh BRITAIN, where did we go wrong? EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 1:01 pm

Like the ones which say the Police cannot chase criminals, whats the point of the Police if they cannot do the job they are paid for, and because of petty rules.

Who gives a flying shyte of a joyrider being chased by Police trashes the car into a tree and kills themselves, one less idiot for the Police to deal with. Much the same with kids on motorcycles, not allowed to chase them either in case the little darling falls off and scrapes his or her knee; tough, commit the crime and let the Police do what they want or need to do to apprehend them.

Or even the rules which state sexual and ethnic equality, so why can the Police be forced to have so many women or minorities in each force, definately sexual and ethnic equality, or the same being fast tracked into management because of their gender or skin colour.

Rules to me are something 12" long with imperial measurements on one side, and metric on the other, and are used for measuring.
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