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PostSubject: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyWed Jan 19, 2011 7:29 pm

When I go out into the desert I take the same things with me no matter how long I go for. Most are kept in a compartment under the folding rear seat anyway so I don't notice them. The rest get chucked on the roof rack and tied down (and padlocked). But, maybe I have a bit too much stuff, yet and always scared that the one thing I've left at home, I'll invariably need.

Sand mats, high lift jack with attachment for the wheels, cool box for sandwiches and chocolate, jerry can which goes in the holder on the rear and tarp.

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In the rear hidden under the rear folding seat -
Too much to mention really but - folding shovel, normal shovel (actually that goes on the roof), sod off big compressor for pumping up my tyres (in soft sand let them down), spare small compressor, foot pump (belt and braces approach, why have one of something when you can fit three in), spare fan belts, tools and more tools, warning triangle for when on the road, smaller first aid kit, towing cable x 2, the orange square thing is the stand for the high lift jack, two hydraulic jacks and the normal manufactures jack which isn't very good (three again!), glue and bits and bobs, GPS, map, tyre pressure gauge (normally those are in the front of the car), a couple of torches, and, err, can't remember, just other small stuff that I seem to accumulate.

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyWed Jan 19, 2011 11:32 pm


Thats a good bit of kit. I have similar stuff but not that much. I dont reccon its overkill, "you'd rarther have it and not need it than need it and not have it".

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyThu Jan 20, 2011 1:54 am

I agree.
My thoughts are that if I can fit everything in - I haven't got too much.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyThu Jan 20, 2011 1:47 pm

That's not a hammer ... Razz

Unless it weighs at least 3lbs, you're not even trying. Sorry I forgot, you don't run a Land Rover. doh

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyThu Jan 20, 2011 1:50 pm

I don't call it overkill. You can die in the desert if not properly prepared..........
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyThu Jan 20, 2011 3:43 pm

Funny you should mention the hammer. I used to keep a big lump hammer in the glove box. At the time it was the only place it's go -- until it fell out one day on the wife's ankle.
I've been banned from having one now.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptySat Jan 22, 2011 8:57 am

Tom Mc wrote:
That's not a hammer ... Razz

Unless it weighs at least 3lbs, you're not even trying. Sorry I forgot, you don't run a Land Rover. doh

thats for breaking the frozen chocolate .
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 1:28 am

Got a 47lb twin shafted sledge hammer if that is any good to you Tom.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 9:54 pm

thats about the right amount of kit,,,,, thumbsup ,,,,,, thumbsup i carry much the same,but only carry the hi lift if im going away longer than a day,,i have a big hydrulic jack from a lorry i carry most of the time as the origanal jack isnt much use,,, scratching chin ,

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptySun Jan 23, 2011 11:28 pm

I've never had to use the high lift in anger but the thought of having it with me puts my mind at ease.
Plus my wife says I have to take it just in case - and of course that's the main reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyMon Jan 24, 2011 8:33 pm

The "How often have you used your highlift jack?" question comes up quite often.
In 30 years of travelling my wide brown country, I can honestly say the high lift jack has never been used on a vehicle.

What they ARE really useful for, is removing fence posts Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 5:15 am

Assassin wrote:
Got a 47lb twin shafted sledge hammer if that is any good to you Tom.
Eh? What on earth's a "twin shafted sledge hammer"???? scratch

As for fence posts, I concur.

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 5:23 am

Vixen wrote:
The "How often have you used your highlift jack?" question comes up quite often.
In 30 years of travelling my wide brown country, I can honestly say the high lift jack has never been used on a vehicle.

What they ARE really useful for, is removing fence posts Very Happy

over the years a hell of a lot, I find the best is the Hi-Lift, others I,v found not so good one I would call a killer.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 5:28 am

Its a specialised blacksmithing hammer, often now redundant due to powered hammers becoming available cheaply.

Two shafts give precise control over a single shaft sledge when striking something defined as precise when striking for a blacksmith.

Did i use it? regularly when i was younger as our industry still had blacksmiths, and after a couple hours of non stop swinging you wonder why anyone joins a gym.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 5:32 am

Hi-lift jacks became much of a fashionable accessory over the years, and often sold the their ability to jack most things and act as a winch; they are useful to have if you ever need them and there are many cheap copies.

I find them dangerous unless people know how to use them properly, and here lies my issue, how many know how to use them properly? my own experience is most people do not, and despite the numerous cheap courses many people refuse to take one.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:07 pm

Couldn't agree more, Hi-Lift jacks (and their copies) are to be treated with respect - the alternative is a broken jaw!

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 7:22 pm

Tom Mc wrote:
Couldn't agree more, Hi-Lift jacks (and their copies) are to be treated with respect - the alternative is a broken jaw!


Or worse! One guy I know of was airlifted to hospital. He was 'lucky' he lved but with a loss of one eye and a face rebuilt with metal plates.

Treat them with the uttermost respect. When loaded keep handle upright and tied up with a rope loop. Also use a folding axle stand.


Keep hard objects behind a cargo barrier and/or as well as fasten down securely! Quickfists are a useful storage solutions.

When things go wrong, they go wrong fast! No time to fasten down the potential missiles in the split seconds before impact.



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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyWed Jan 26, 2011 12:59 pm

Once saw the devastation from a cheap copy when they first came out, a LR forward control was being jacked at the front and the intention was to push it sideways once at full height to free it from the ruts which had bellied the front end.

The mechanism snapped and it cracked right the way through, the LR fell and flirted the jack out, it buried what remained of the jack in a tree, thats force.

Fortunately the operator was skilled in their use and uninjured as he moved his party to the rear of the vehicle, and well out of the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyMon Feb 28, 2011 8:15 am

I habe a heavy 300mm x 400mm x 8mm baseplate for my hi-lift which simple bolts onto the existing baseplate. I stays out of the way behind the driver's seat of my Defender. It takes a few minutes to do up the 6 bolts but it makes the whole thing much more stable. If I lift up the back end using the hi-lift with an adapter it really is difficult to topple it over. For a simple drilled plate and half a dozen bolts it makes a big difference.

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 8:25 am

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I habe a heavy 300mm x 400mm x 8mm baseplate for my hi-lift which simple bolts onto the existing baseplate. I stays out of the way behind the driver's seat of my Defender. It takes a few minutes to do up the 6 bolts but it makes the whole thing much more stable. If I lift up the back end using the hi-lift with an adapter it really is difficult to topple it over. For a simple drilled plate and half a dozen bolts it makes a big difference.

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How about a couple pieces of carpet.

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptyTue Oct 04, 2011 5:55 pm

love my hi lift use it for everything,, adore ,,,,braking beads on tires etc,,,,,,its not realy designed to lift 101s there a tad heavy and to tall so its lifting at the top of the rack so all the weight is at the top,,,,,no,,,i will use the 3 ton jack under the axles ,,,much better and safer,,,,, thumbsup

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PostSubject: Re: Possible overkill   Possible overkill EmptySat Dec 24, 2011 10:09 pm

tuggy wrote:
love my hi lift use it for everything,, adore ,,,,braking beads on tires etc,,,,,,its not realy designed to lift 101s there a tad heavy and to tall so its lifting at the top of the rack so all the weight is at the top,,,,,no,,,i will use the 3 ton jack under the axles ,,,much better and safer,,,,, thumbsup

I did toy with the idea of getting a hi lift but after hearing a few horror stories (usually down to operator error) I kept my 3.5 tonne bottle jack and a folding shovel it may take a little longer to dig out a hole big enough to fit the jack under the truck but I feel safer that way as I'm not in any hurry to cave the side of my head in.

Sorry to go off topic Tuggy but are you on another forum as "the king of the kitchen" ?

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