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+7graeme Jas RLD Vixen Assassin Tom Mc 4x4overlander 11 posters |
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4x4overlander Just got AT's
Posts : 202 Join date : 2010-12-26
| Subject: Fuel cans for the overlander Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:19 am | |
| Extra fuel is needed to be carried wether it is an emergency supply for the engine or for the cooking stove. Two materials are commonly used, plastic or steel. Plastic is lighter and cheaper then steel fuel cans. However that is where their advantages stop. They can implode, expand as pressure/temperature alters. This can allow fumes to escape into the cab. Drop a full plastic one on a corner and it can crack. No such problem with steel ones Photo shows an imploded plastic fuel can. For cooking fuel the 5 litre metal jerry can is preferred IMO HTH Brendan | |
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Tom Mc Founder
Posts : 3781 Join date : 2010-12-10 Location : Sant Boi de Lluçanès, Catalunya, Spain
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:30 am | |
| Never use gas for cooking then? | |
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Assassin Terrain Expert
Posts : 1227 Join date : 2010-12-27
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:13 pm | |
| I prefer the petrol cooker, hotter, cheaper to run, and petrol is available anywhere at anytime unlike gas; horses for courses. | |
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Vixen Just got M&S Tyres
Posts : 135 Join date : 2010-12-26 Location : NSW Orstraya
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:28 am | |
| Heaps of Aussies prefer the Coleman dual fuel 2 burner cooker for camping. I had one for a while but could never get the hang of it. My bloke could but as I was chief cook and bottle washer my wishes won out and we went back to our low pressure 2 burner gas stove As said, horses for courses....I prefer gas for cooking on, after an open fire (which opportunities for are getting less and less now) As for carrying fuel.....I'd ALWAYS go with a steel jerrycan over a plastic one. Too much risk of breakage in our rough conditions......but again, personal preference | |
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RLD Just got AT's
Posts : 178 Join date : 2010-12-26 Age : 76 Location : lancashire uk
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:02 pm | |
| yes Vixsen i use one of them it's a pity they don't do one to use Diesel that would be even better but i also use a Weber baby Q these are really good as you can use them just like an oven as well you can use small gas bottle or larger 6Kg ones or even bigger | |
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Jas Admin
Posts : 1285 Join date : 2010-12-30
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:49 am | |
| Rookie question:
I dont have a roof rack or other exterior equipment storage on my truck. Is it safe to store diesel jerry cans inside the vehicle in while driving/overland travel? | |
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graeme Gate Opener
Posts : 29 Join date : 2010-12-28 Location : st.helens
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:32 am | |
| this is one i fabbed up after many hours looking for a carrier that would take two metal jerry cans , its nounted thru the chassis with a spring loaded bolt to hold it in place and a small jockey wheel to take some of the weight of the mounting post . i also moved the spare wheel up onto the roof away from thieving fingers. | |
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roamingman Terrain Master
Posts : 1392 Join date : 2010-12-26 Age : 75 Location : Nearly thier
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:13 am | |
| Bought a Ozpig last year, just about gettig to grips with the cooking , also have a two burner with grill gas stove, and a small gas cooker for quick drinks of tea on the move | |
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graeme Gate Opener
Posts : 29 Join date : 2010-12-28 Location : st.helens
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:22 am | |
| as roamingman said for quick drinks on the road ,ive put a small fold up table in the back and mounted onto the rear door , just big enough for a single burner gas cooker. | |
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Vixen Just got M&S Tyres
Posts : 135 Join date : 2010-12-26 Location : NSW Orstraya
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:11 am | |
| - Terracan Jas wrote:
- Rookie question:
I dont have a roof rack or other exterior equipment storage on my truck. Is it safe to store diesel jerry cans inside the vehicle in while driving/overland travel? I've done it Had 5 cans of diesel inside for a trip in 2006. I also carry gas bottles inside. There is a funny thing about safety.....if you did everything safely, you'd do nothing at all, as everything in life has risk attached | |
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Jas Admin
Posts : 1285 Join date : 2010-12-30
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:27 am | |
| - Quote :
- I've done it Had 5 cans of diesel inside for a trip in 2006. I also carry gas bottles inside. There is a funny thing about safety.....if you did everything safely, you'd do nothing at all, as everything in life has risk attached
Thanks for the info. | |
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freespirit4x4 Just got M&S Tyres
Posts : 142 Join date : 2011-01-01 Location : Mansfield
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:34 am | |
| i have had 5 20ltr jerry cans inside too, one thing you have to consider is the amount of weight down the route out from andorra i think the bump stops got well tested | |
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Tom Mc Founder
Posts : 3781 Join date : 2010-12-10 Location : Sant Boi de Lluçanès, Catalunya, Spain
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:37 am | |
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Vixen Just got M&S Tyres
Posts : 135 Join date : 2010-12-26 Location : NSW Orstraya
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:38 pm | |
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Tom Mc Founder
Posts : 3781 Join date : 2010-12-10 Location : Sant Boi de Lluçanès, Catalunya, Spain
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:01 pm | |
| Nearly right Vixen. Ditch 95 litres of water and you'll be getting warmer - he's a student!!! And he's never, ever been 500km from a pub in his life! | |
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4x4overlander Just got AT's
Posts : 202 Join date : 2010-12-26
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:29 pm | |
| As far as I am aware it is illegal to carry fuel cans on sides/front/rear of vehicles. Do you really fancy a filled fuel can being the first thing that is impacted upon in the event of a collision??
Secondly consider your weight. Who needs to carry 100 lires of fuel in jerry cans around Europe? Apart from the legality question. In most of Europe you are seldom more then 30-50 miles away from a fuel station.
Most fuel I have carried is 160 litres which included 2 20 litre jerry cans and that was as a solo vehicle in remote areas.
Excess weight is an enemy! Makes for harder work for drive train/suspension etc
Keep as much weight as low down as possible and between axles
Brendan | |
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Tom Mc Founder
Posts : 3781 Join date : 2010-12-10 Location : Sant Boi de Lluçanès, Catalunya, Spain
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:15 am | |
| Brendan, I'll say one word about Kieran's 5 x 20 litre jerricans of fuel ... Andorra. Explains everything eh? | |
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freespirit4x4 Just got M&S Tyres
Posts : 142 Join date : 2011-01-01 Location : Mansfield
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:25 am | |
| - Tom Mc wrote:
- Nearly right Vixen. Ditch 95 litres of water and you'll be getting warmer - he's a student!!! And he's never, ever been 500km from a pub in his life!
well thats if you don't count china didn't really have much our liqueds on board as we had no time to stop considering you had broken down tom maybe next time | |
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Assassin Terrain Expert
Posts : 1227 Join date : 2010-12-27
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:48 pm | |
| In the Uk and Europe you are allowed to carry 5 litres of petrol in a plastic container inside a vehicle, but what most don't know is a crucial piece of legislation which says it must only be in the boot of a car and it must have a solid steel bulkhead between the boot and passenger compartment. This makes it technically illegal to carry fuel in nearly all 4X4's, hatchbacks, and most modern saloons as they have folding seats or things like load hatches incorporated into the rear seats, meaning no solid steel bulkhead. You are allowed to carry up to 20 litres of petrol in an approved and clearly marked steel petrol can as long as its in the boot as above, or up to 20 litres of fuel mixed up as other fuels such as a pre-mixed two stroke oil/petrol mixture.
For diesel theres no maximum as long as its in sealed, approved fuel containers. | |
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maadmaan10 Just fitted a Snorkel
Posts : 393 Join date : 2011-12-31 Age : 65 Location : Aldersh*t
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:06 am | |
| - Assassin wrote:
- In the Uk and Europe you are allowed to carry 5 litres of petrol in a plastic container inside a vehicle, but what most don't know is a crucial piece of legislation which says it must only be in the boot of a car and it must have a solid steel bulkhead between the boot and passenger compartment. This makes it technically illegal to carry fuel in nearly all 4X4's, hatchbacks, and most modern saloons as they have folding seats or things like load hatches incorporated into the rear seats, meaning no solid steel bulkhead.
You are allowed to carry up to 20 litres of petrol in an approved and clearly marked steel petrol can as long as its in the boot as above, or up to 20 litres of fuel mixed up as other fuels such as a pre-mixed two stroke oil/petrol mixture.
For diesel theres no maximum as long as its in sealed, approved fuel containers. SPOT ON! the key is to use steel containers to stay within the law in MOST countries. Also in some countries - ie Sweden, it is illegal to carry ANY fuel inside the vehicle regardless of container type. It is also illegal in many countries to carry fuel on the rear of the vehivle so the only safe place really is in fabricated holders on the roof. NOT the ideal place for all that weight though.... | |
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Tom Mc Founder
Posts : 3781 Join date : 2010-12-10 Location : Sant Boi de Lluçanès, Catalunya, Spain
| Subject: Re: Fuel cans for the overlander Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:02 pm | |
| Great for photos though, the motor looks like a proper expedition vehicle. | |
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nigelish Rookie
Posts : 9 Join date : 2013-03-13
| Subject: Rotapax Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:56 am | |
| We use 2x 3gallon (US) Rotapax containers on the spare tyre using their ratchet strap fixing system, seems OK but we are modifying this as they 'shake loose' when we are driving over dunes, the intention is to fix them back to the wheel carrier as well. For normal use they would be fine, just tends to get bouncy over the desert. Nigel | |
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