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PostSubject: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:06 am

While getting a puncture repaired this weekend at my local tyre store, He just had delivered a set of new Cooper tyres and they looked like the Muts Nuts. They were the Cooper Discoverer AT3 and the Cooper discoverer ST MAXX. According to him they are replacing the AT/R & ST Discoverer pattern due to road noise regulations and what type of oils are used in their construction.

Prices in my tyre size of 245 75 16 were £99 per tyre, £110 fitted per tyre.

Does anyone own a set yet?





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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:23 pm

Known about this company for years - Sinton Tyres in Milton Keynes. http://www.sintontyres.co.uk In fact wrote an artice for a 4x4 magazine about them once; good reputation. Sinton of course, not me! Rolling Eyes

I believe they used to be the official importer for Cooper Tires in the UK, maybe still are?

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:30 pm

Noise regulations have been around for a while now, the dreaded EU regulations strike again, and all new tyres have to comply with ever increasing legislation concerning the reduction of tyre noise.

As for the oils, basically many traditional tyres use oils of various kinds in their manufacture as its in the rubber and the synthetic compounds they now use to blend with the rubber, it is the specific oils which are bitumen based which has to be cut, we have already seen many reductions in bitumen based products, creasote being the most popular banned item. This restriction is now passing to many other items or products containing such compounds.

When tyres are disposed of they break down and leach many substances into the ground which contaminates it, tyres are no different, but, those complying with the legislation on tyre disposal are fine but it is the fly tippers and those disposing of tyres illegally who are the problem, they dump them anywhere quiet where they are unseen while dumping.
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:31 pm

Sinton tyres are still the official importers, but many of the Cooper brand are now made here in their UK factory and Sinton are their official distributors as well.
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:05 am

Prices in my tyre size of 245 75 16 were £99 per tyre, £110 fitted per tyre.

Does anyone own a set yet?[/quote]

I had one cooper and one of the new pattern general grabber tyres from my local supplier to look over when I was looking to pick a tyre for the Landy Rally the grabber was about £15 a corner more expensive but I choose them as they came highly recommended from 3 friends one has a Jeep one a Landy 110 and the other a L200 pick up they could not say a bad thing about them and to me the Cooper was an unknown.
The tread pattern's were not that different but the side wall on the grabber seemed more robust.

I paid £125 a tyre fitted size 255 75 17 the Coopers were the same as you have been quoted £110.
I also looked at the Avon all road but it wasn't available in my size

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:30 pm

Actually, the Cooper STT has the strongest sidewall of any tyre, this is a three ply lamination with reinforcing instead of the unreinforced two ply construction of all other tyres.
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:55 pm

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Actually, the Cooper STT has the strongest sidewall of any tyre, this is a three ply lamination with reinforcing instead of the unreinforced two ply construction of all other tyres.

Just goes to show you can/t always tell by the look, what's the saying don't judge a book by the cover, I stand corrected.

Still happy with my purchase though, a little more road noise than the Perelli snow and ice tyres that I had before but hopefully should provide more grip on the gravel tracks and the grass verges that are the ML's domain Very Happy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:13 pm

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Actually, the Cooper STT has the strongest sidewall of any tyre, this is a three ply lamination with reinforcing instead of the unreinforced two ply construction of all other tyres.
Actively went seeking sponsorship from Armstrong Tyres for the Paris-Dakar as they have kevlar reinforced side walls. One set took me to Dakar with only two punctures, neither in the side walls I hasten to add. First class.

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:16 am


I think the new shape Goodyear Wrangler MT/R have kevlar sidewalls now as well. Im not too sure on the specs but here is a pic.



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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:33 am

Wideformat:

Thats the beauty of these forums, we learn from others, and are all more knowledgeable for it.

There are specialised tyres with stronger sidewalls, but they are for specialised applications and with specialised prices to match, and many manufacturers are looking to the various composites in their manufacture as they become cheaper to purchase and easier to work with.
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:00 pm

i ran a set of cooper STT,s on the bad boy and was impressed with them,, thumbsup ,,,but i think i might like to try the new coopers they look quite capable,,, scratching chin ,,,

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:49 am


With tyre patterns like the Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar and Michelin Latitude Cross, would the tyres on the opposite side have to be run in the opposite direction or back to front due to the non-symetrical tyre tread? Just from looking at the pictures.....

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:36 am

Without going and looking, I am pretty sure we have Cooper ST's on two of our landies Very Happy Nothing wrong with Cooper tyres., have had them before and got good mileage out of them Very Happy

Hmmm....reread and you weren't actually asking about ST's Embarassed The pics threw me Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:32 am

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Known about this company for years - Sinton Tyres in Milton Keynes. http://www.sintontyres.co.uk In fact wrote an artice for a 4x4 magazine about them once; good reputation. Sinton of course, not me! Rolling Eyes

I believe they used to be the official importer for Cooper Tires in the UK, maybe still are?

Their website is dud! I checked Google and cant find them either! You reckon they closed shop?

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:47 pm

After a quick company check i can confirm Sinton Tyres are officially in liquidation after 33 years in business.
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:15 am

Sorry I know that this is an old topic.

I am running a set of Cooper ST MAXX on my Hilux 265/75/16 on 8j rims. I have done 10 000 proplem free miles so far with them. They were part of the first 200 which was imported by Silverline from America.

I had BFG AT's on before and I have to say the ST MAXX is by far better then the BFG AT's in the wet and off road, less road noise and very strong side walls. I dont think I will ever go back to BFG again.


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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:16 am


Hilux 4x4 - Thanks for the update. This is really valuable info. Cheers.

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Fri May 23, 2014 5:52 am

My brother runs them on his 100 series land cruiser he absolutely loves them, good road manners and quiet, he's not done a lot of miles on them yet maybe about five thousand but so far so good
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sat May 24, 2014 10:30 pm

Hi. I'm running 17inch Cooper STT's on my Defender 90 (heavy laden overland spec) and I cannot fault these tyres. I don't think road noise from them was a issue??? Still EU laws...... Anyway generally I clock up between 150-200 miles a week on these tyres and have had them fitted for approx. 2 years now. Never had a puncture but it is mainly tarmac miles.
When I bought them they came with a 50,000 mile guaranteed life span (how they decide the difference between off road use and tarmac use I don't know cause off road would surely wear much quicker) but using them mainly on tarmac 50,000 is very realistic on all 4 corners.

We used to use BFG tyres on our Defender 110's towing a hot air balloon trailer (across boggy fields, rough terrain and anything imaginable to retrieve a landed hot air balloon in the middle of nowhere and not on a pre-planned landing site) and they were good tyres, but in my opinion not as good as the Cooper STT's.

So to the point, I'd have BFG's fitted but whilst Cooper STT's or there new replacements are available I would have no hesitation at going for these at the same price or marginally more, but as a bonus they are cheaper.  clapping
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sat May 24, 2014 10:36 pm

Just to mention another point, on heavy braking the STT's bite in very well and still allow you to control your vehicle. They bite in amazingly well when needed (emergency stop) but I have never locked them up on tarmac.

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sat May 24, 2014 11:40 pm

Might try Coopers in future, had BFGs before and tore a great hole in them off road and as they were £170 each due to size I've shyed away from such thing in the last few years and gone for remoulds I've had insa desert tracks on the Disco for a year now and done over 24,000 miles of which probably well over 2,000 of those were off road I would say there about half worn, only had 1 puncture a large bolt driving through a remote village in Morocco apart from that the only issue was the bead didn't seal properly on one when I first had them fitted, refitted and no problems

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sun May 25, 2014 12:20 am

I looked at the Coopers but ended up going for these. Glad I did. These tyres are awesome. Heaps of grip in every terrain and last well too. I have them in 285/75 x 16.

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Sun May 25, 2014 3:11 am

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I looked at the Coopers but ended up going for these. Glad I did. These tyres are awesome. Heaps of grip in every terrain and last well too. I have them in 285/75 x 16.

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/index.php?page=F-C-II

These are really tough tyres while using my Disco to extract a Defender out of some sand last year wheel spin on my sand ladders with Mickey Thomson tyres on the 110 melted my sand ladders

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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:22 pm

Gold Rig wrote:
I looked at the Coopers but ended up going for these. Glad I did. These tyres are awesome. Heaps of grip in every terrain and last well too. I have them in 285/75 x 16.

How's the traction of the FC-II's in the mud?
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PostSubject: Re: New Cooper Tread (With Pics)   Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:10 pm

Love the FC-II's. Great in all terrains. Work well in mud.
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