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PostSubject: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyWed Jul 10, 2013 2:38 am

Ok i have done a trip to Portugal where there are more lanes per sq mile that there are in Essex

So i am going back

This is an invite to all the members on here to do this trip

I will be leaving on fri 12 September 2014 to catch a ferry about 5.00pm for an overnight trip to Santander Spain

Due to the arrive time being about 5.00pm on sat i will be staying at a hotel nearby for the night.

Next morning a 6 hour drive to Braganca in Portugal

There is a nice 1 or maybe 2 star campsite there which cost us about 14 euro's per night for 4 of us, 1 tent, elec and a car


Mon will be a nice easy day

tues all day lanes

wed all day

thurs all day

fri easy day

Then the weekend off to do whatever we want

Mon easy day

tues easy day

wed morning pack up for the trip back to santander

thurs on the ferry

fri back in the uk

there is fuel and a supermarket about 20 mins away

Meeting points can be at the ferry on fri or can meet any day at the campsite

So give it ago and enjoy another country where 4x4 lanes are everywhere

You have over a year to save up

Fuel is about 15p-20p per lit cheaper

food and drink also cheaper if out of the supermarket


The ferry
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the camp site

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this might help you about how good the lanes are

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they other person own personnel statement on the trip

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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyWed Jul 10, 2013 1:47 pm

I still haven't made it Portugal yet really want to, and won't be able to this time either. It's leading up to ADVENTURE OVERLAND 2014 so that's my busiest tim - shame that! No 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyWed Aug 07, 2013 5:09 am

the price list is avail for September 2014 and they look good

But trying to get a better price from a agent
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Aug 08, 2013 8:39 am

Bo ho!!! Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Aug 08, 2013 8:53 am

Why bo ho?

oh still no tickets for the show only got 5-6 weeks left
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Aug 29, 2013 6:14 am

can get 10% off the booking for the ferry via an agent if anyone would like to go
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Aug 29, 2013 7:57 am

Damn it Portugal is on my wish list but next September I'm doing Route 66 with 5 mates
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Aug 29, 2013 9:50 am

We are leaving after the show, booked on ferry from Dover 2.00am Wednesday 2/10/13, going down through France Portugal Spain for meet on campsite before ferry. clinking teacups 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Aug 29, 2013 8:26 pm

I didn't realise you were going to the Spanish port via Portugal.
Due to me being out of the country too much this year (insurance problems) I am now leaving a week after the show and just doing France, Andorra and Spain on my way down when are you looking at arriving in Algerciearas ?

A big sorry to Ratrace didn't mean to hijack you're thread Embarassed 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Aug 29, 2013 11:23 pm

We are looking to be there on Saturday 12/10/13
We were going to do Portugal on the way back, but speaking to a guy on another fotum, who has been there and morocco quite a lot, his advice to do it first.

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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyWed Sep 04, 2013 4:33 am

ferry all book up and a nice price



further to your enquiry regarding Brittany Ferries, we can offer the following:- wrote:
further to your enquiry regarding Brittany Ferries, we can offer the following:-



Out 1700hrs 12 Sept 2014 Portsmouth-Santander

Return 1530 25 Sept 2014 Bilbao-Portsmouth



Ext 2 berth cabin both ways

2pax + Land Rover Discovery L5.0m x H2.5m



Out - Vehicle + passengers £279, cabin £100

Return - Vehicle + passengers £279, cabin £80



Total £738 less 10% discount = £664.20



£25 deposit payable on booking, balance by 29 June 2014.
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyWed Sep 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Bearing in mind it would cost £500+ driving up and down France, which we all know is knackering on you , your passengers and of course your vehicle (unless you can take your time of course - in which case it's great), then £664 is well worth the extra.

By the way ratrace, bit of a delay but tickets for AO`13 will on their way by end of the week. So much to do, so little time!
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptySun Sep 08, 2013 6:11 am

Braganca in Portugal
just been there and took so back lanes and you can see all the tracks in the mountains i said to management that looks good so might be interested ....clapping 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptySun Sep 08, 2013 6:31 am

so far one other has book

That's y we are staying in one place as we found there was enough trails to try within a 30 miles raduis
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 8:56 am

hi
we couldn't travel with you:( -----as we are 8ft wide an 3.5 meters high----but---do you have maps with tracks marked on??-----we try to get to Portugal as often as we can (during the winter) but don't know of any maps that can help with tracks-----we do run off road a bit but our size does limit us a lot--(we have a Dodge dually 4X4)
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 3:04 pm

most of the trails we try last year were wide enough for you, with me I just look on google to get a rough idea if there is a trail worth doing.
also some of the trail show up as legal unmade roads
when I get home I put a few photos up so u can see
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 7:29 am

the local duel carriageway, where is the traffic
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below some trail we saw on the way
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 8:30 am

Hi
Those tracks are 'right up our street'------do you have any details on the position-Co-ords work very well with us------but any maps showing lanes anywhere in Portugal would be good for us Smile 
We love Portugal and have driven to most areas------we only go in the winter so the South is quite attractive to us ----We have a camper so wild-camp-- mostly in mountains/desolate areas----but DO try to avoid the mobs of vans in the Algarve Embarassed Embarassed 
That empty road you showed was probably a new toll road !!!
We plan to be in Sweden next Sept/Oct.--------That is the best Country to motor home in, in our opinion (in the Summer)---------Portugal is fantastic in the winter-----both Countries are soooo easy and relaxed to travel/camp in:)  Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 9:30 am


I need to tell you that there are same restrictions in summer, from July till the end of September: Tracks and ways in forest areas are off limits due to fire risk - not only to 4x4s, but to everything (motor or no motor) that doesn´t belong to the officials (firefighters, police, etc) or local residents.

The authorities may close their eyes if you travel trough an already burned area.

The end of the restriction varies depending on the weather temperatures forecast. Usually is mid-september, but this year is expected to be at the end of september.

We offroaders start our season after september, also (or mainly) due to this.

Anyway, still plenty to see out of forest areas...
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 6:31 pm

JorgeSC wrote:

I need to tell you that there are same restrictions in summer, from July till the end of September: Tracks and ways in forest areas are off limits due to fire risk - not only to 4x4s, but to everything (motor or no motor) that doesn´t belong to the officials (firefighters, police, etc) or local residents.

The authorities may close their eyes if you travel trough an already burned area.

The end of the restriction varies depending on the weather temperatures forecast. Usually is mid-september, but this year is expected to be at the end of september.

We offroaders start our season after september, also (or mainly) due to this.

Anyway, still plenty to see out of forest areas...
See guys as always you can't beat local knowledge, thanks JorgeSC. adore

Portugal looks a loverly country to visit and I'm going to add at least a week there on my next European trip down south, what's the temperature like end of September and October would it be warm enough to camp, don't want to put the wife off and she doesn't do camping in the cold
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 10:09 pm

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Portugal looks a loverly country to visit and I'm going to add at least a week there on my next European trip down south, what's the temperature like end of September and October would it be warm enough to camp, don't want to put the wife off and she doesn't  do camping in the cold
Portugal is, indeed, a very nice place to offroad. (Pls note that I know, due to work issues, Namibia, Botswana, desert of Libia, Angola, Mozambique, Rumania and Kazakhstan out of paved roads) Here you have a several different kinds of sights in a day offroad driving distance, or in 3 hours by road! But, again, I might be suspect, because I love this country...

In October, in coast areas you get a mild temperatures, a little harsher in the interior ( 5 to 15 Cdgree)
Anyway, usually you can rent a bungalow on a campsite ( around 30€/night for 2 person) and you'll be ok.

We usually go for a drive in a small group of 2, 3 or 4 cars, family spirit, and stay there. Cheaper than hotels and better (you can leave your muddy boots outside in the porch, and your LR in front of the door...)

Our little group are planning to have a 5 days drive in December, from 25th to 31th -and finish with the New Year celebration- probably in Serra da Estrela. It will be a family oriented activity, with medium offroad difficulties. Anyone who wants to joint will be welcome
It's not a commercial or organized tour, each one will support own costs.
The only downsize of it will be the limited number of cars, in total: we don't want to go over 6-7 cars, either because of environmental issues and to avoid the requirement of legal authorization.
When it will be confirmed and settled, I'll post it on the right spot.

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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyWed Sep 11, 2013 4:27 am

leave the kids at Christmas, I will be killed

don't want to put the wife off and she doesn't do camping in the cold wrote:
do what I do its more fun leave her at home Very Happy Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyThu Sep 12, 2013 11:33 am

ratrace wrote:
leave the kids at Christmas, I will be killed


do what I do its more fun leave her at home Very Happy Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptyFri Sep 13, 2013 7:43 am

ONE WIVE, LIVID! No
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PostSubject: Re: Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14   Portugal 12-9-14 to 28-9-14 EmptySun Sep 15, 2013 5:18 pm

Tom Mc wrote:
ONE WIVE, LIVID! No
Leave it??? No

Very Happy

Are u already in Portugal? Updates, please!
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